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	<title>Comments on: Swamps and passports: what it all means</title>
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	<description>Eyolf Østrem on Dylan, Computers, and then some</description>
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		<title>By: 5-Track</title>
		<link>http://oestrem.com/thingstwice/2009/03/swamps-and-passports-what-it-all-means/comment-page-1/#comment-49466</link>
		<dc:creator>5-Track</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume the &quot;only person it could matter to&quot; means his wife, as in &quot;Hell&#039;s My Wife&#039;s Hometown&quot; ... dunno about the off-road shows, tho, I wondered about that, too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume the &#8220;only person it could matter to&#8221; means his wife, as in &#8220;Hell&#8217;s My Wife&#8217;s Hometown&#8221; &#8230; dunno about the off-road shows, tho, I wondered about that, too</p>
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		<title>By: PaulB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of Dylan and &#039;images&#039; is interesting. I agree there was a &quot;monkey to get off his back.&quot; Can any sane person live with the expectation of being a &#039;prophet&#039;? Of course Dylan is right to fend this off - a person assuming the role of  &#039;voice&#039; stirs a terrible ghost from the twentieth century.

That said!! - there is an artistic ambivalence here I think. Blake wrote &#039;prophecies&#039;. And Shelley once famously asserted that a nation&#039;s real legislators are it&#039;s poets! Without all the personified clutter of  &#039;prophecy&#039; - actively created, or dream inspired, images do deserve to be taken seriously.

Jung&#039;s famous assertion - of &#039;the blonde beast stirring&#039; - is a case in point. Based purely upon the dreams of his German patients (PRE the unfolding of hitler&#039;s horrors) - he made this tragic &#039;prophecy&#039;. Of course Jung too has been the subject of many claims of his being a mystic/cult figure. And naturally he fought hard to refute this. As Dylan is a musician - Jung was a scientist. - regular guys(!) - neither claiming to part seas (leave that to the megalomaniacs). 

But as regards the OBJECTIVE importance of an artist&#039;s images, Dylan might just be being a little coy; rightly so - sanely so! But I wonder if he sometimes smiles to himself  - why THIS image at THIS time?

Just a thought!! - long winded at that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of Dylan and &#8216;images&#8217; is interesting. I agree there was a &#8220;monkey to get off his back.&#8221; Can any sane person live with the expectation of being a &#8216;prophet&#8217;? Of course Dylan is right to fend this off &#8211; a person assuming the role of  &#8216;voice&#8217; stirs a terrible ghost from the twentieth century.</p>
<p>That said!! &#8211; there is an artistic ambivalence here I think. Blake wrote &#8216;prophecies&#8217;. And Shelley once famously asserted that a nation&#8217;s real legislators are it&#8217;s poets! Without all the personified clutter of  &#8216;prophecy&#8217; &#8211; actively created, or dream inspired, images do deserve to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>Jung&#8217;s famous assertion &#8211; of &#8216;the blonde beast stirring&#8217; &#8211; is a case in point. Based purely upon the dreams of his German patients (PRE the unfolding of hitler&#8217;s horrors) &#8211; he made this tragic &#8216;prophecy&#8217;. Of course Jung too has been the subject of many claims of his being a mystic/cult figure. And naturally he fought hard to refute this. As Dylan is a musician &#8211; Jung was a scientist. &#8211; regular guys(!) &#8211; neither claiming to part seas (leave that to the megalomaniacs). </p>
<p>But as regards the OBJECTIVE importance of an artist&#8217;s images, Dylan might just be being a little coy; rightly so &#8211; sanely so! But I wonder if he sometimes smiles to himself  &#8211; why THIS image at THIS time?</p>
<p>Just a thought!! &#8211; long winded at that!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found your site - I decided to Google your name after benefiting so much from your guitar chords over the years. I think that there should be a special monument to the great transcribers of the internet.  Now I will also be able to enjoy your writing and analysis.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found your site &#8211; I decided to Google your name after benefiting so much from your guitar chords over the years. I think that there should be a special monument to the great transcribers of the internet.  Now I will also be able to enjoy your writing and analysis.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Knowlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Knowlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Mr. Ostrem:

I wanted to write to you and express my gratitude for your &quot;Dylanchords&quot; site.  I play in a band that performs Dylan compositions exclusively, and we have relied on your site for guidance in our arrangement.  In fact, we gave you a special thanks in our recent CD.  If you&#039;d like a copy, I&#039;d be happy to mail one to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mr. Ostrem:</p>
<p>I wanted to write to you and express my gratitude for your &#8220;Dylanchords&#8221; site.  I play in a band that performs Dylan compositions exclusively, and we have relied on your site for guidance in our arrangement.  In fact, we gave you a special thanks in our recent CD.  If you&#8217;d like a copy, I&#8217;d be happy to mail one to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Oisin O'Faghain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oisin O'Faghain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of shows, I was at the Dublin one (6 May) and there was a very nice lyrical variation (along with Bob playing a wonderful solo on his seldom-seen guitar). In verse 2 the refrain goes &quot;She&#039;s gone to the mill, blood of the moon along the road/ she went with the man in the long black coat&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of shows, I was at the Dublin one (6 May) and there was a very nice lyrical variation (along with Bob playing a wonderful solo on his seldom-seen guitar). In verse 2 the refrain goes &#8220;She&#8217;s gone to the mill, blood of the moon along the road/ she went with the man in the long black coat&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: christopher f.</title>
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		<dc:creator>christopher f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps. funny it would be dylan himself to best sum up what why we&#039;re all nuts about him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. funny it would be dylan himself to best sum up what why we&#8217;re all nuts about him</p>
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		<title>By: christopher f.</title>
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		<dc:creator>christopher f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also thought of your brown passports point when i read that part of the interview. what surprised me was this bit:

I see that my audience now doesn’t particular care what period the songs are from. They feel style and substance in a more visceral way and let it go at that.

21 years into the never-ending tour he&#039;s only now realizing that?! however, i feel privileged to be able to have been part of that audience that he refers to, that audience that feels his style and substance in a visceral way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also thought of your brown passports point when i read that part of the interview. what surprised me was this bit:</p>
<p>I see that my audience now doesn’t particular care what period the songs are from. They feel style and substance in a more visceral way and let it go at that.</p>
<p>21 years into the never-ending tour he&#8217;s only now realizing that?! however, i feel privileged to be able to have been part of that audience that he refers to, that audience that feels his style and substance in a visceral way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interview is indeed great. Some great insights into his song-writing process - the answer to the question about the girl dragging a statue of Buddha in a wagon, for example, and the following remark.

&quot;Hopes and fears go together like a comedy team. But I know what you are talking about. Like in the Everly Brothers song, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS DREAM. If they said, &#039;All I have to do is hope&#039;, it wouldn&#039;t be saying the same thing. It wouldn&#039;t be as strong. &quot;

There&#039;s a couple of points in the interview so far that I found rather mysterious - I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on them?

Firstly there&#039;s this: 

&quot;Q: I suspect that a lot of men will identify with MY WIFE’S HOME TOWN. Do you ever get in hot water with your in-laws over your songs?
A: No not really. The only person it could matter to gets a kick out of it. That song is meant as a compliment anyhow.&quot;

Any suggestions as to who &quot;the only person it could matter to&quot; could be?!

Then there&#039;s this:

&quot;Q: Did you write any of these songs with the accordion in mind or did it come up during the sessions?
A: I use an accordion player when I play off-road shows.&quot;

What does he mean by an &#039;off-road show&#039;?! Well obviously it means a show outside the usual concert halls, but has anyone ever heard whispers of these shows before? Who does he play to, for example?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interview is indeed great. Some great insights into his song-writing process &#8211; the answer to the question about the girl dragging a statue of Buddha in a wagon, for example, and the following remark.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hopes and fears go together like a comedy team. But I know what you are talking about. Like in the Everly Brothers song, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS DREAM. If they said, &#8216;All I have to do is hope&#8217;, it wouldn&#8217;t be saying the same thing. It wouldn&#8217;t be as strong. &#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a couple of points in the interview so far that I found rather mysterious &#8211; I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on them?</p>
<p>Firstly there&#8217;s this: </p>
<p>&#8220;Q: I suspect that a lot of men will identify with MY WIFE’S HOME TOWN. Do you ever get in hot water with your in-laws over your songs?<br />
A: No not really. The only person it could matter to gets a kick out of it. That song is meant as a compliment anyhow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any suggestions as to who &#8220;the only person it could matter to&#8221; could be?!</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Q: Did you write any of these songs with the accordion in mind or did it come up during the sessions?<br />
A: I use an accordion player when I play off-road shows.&#8221;</p>
<p>What does he mean by an &#8216;off-road show&#8217;?! Well obviously it means a show outside the usual concert halls, but has anyone ever heard whispers of these shows before? Who does he play to, for example?!</p>
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